The speaker talks about research studies related to ELL students in FSL and shares research evidence (p. 8 of the document) that supports the participation of ELL students in FSL studies. Podcast duration 12:15, and companion book. See also: https://transformingfsl.ca/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Welcoming-English-Language-Learners-into-French-as-a-Second-Language-Programs-Presentation-1.pdf